FAQ: Next Generation BART Trains
A big thanks to those of you who have filled out surveys or emailed comments to us about the next generation of BART train cars. Below are answers to frequent questions. To comment on BART’s new train cars, click here.
Q1: When will the new BART trains arrive?
A: The first ten train cars went into service January 2018 following safety and reliability testing, and regulatory approval. New cars will arrive steadily over a period of about six years. BART already has 775 new cars on order, with a goal to order 1,081 new cars. This will provide enough cars to run 10 car trains on all peak service into San Francisco, and will increase the number of seats in the fleet by 60%.
Q2: Will new seats and floors be cleaner than the ones you have now?
A: Yes. We have heard loud and clear that most customers want seat upholstery and carpets removed in favor of easier-to-clean materials.
Q3: Will the new cars be less noisy on board?
A: Yes, BART is requiring the car builder to meet the highest standards in the United States regarding train car interior noise and noise absorption. To achieve this requirement, the new cars will have plug style doors that better seal out the noise.
Additionally, BART is changing the surface of the train wheels to make for a quieter ride. Using computer modeling technology that was unavailable even 10 years ago, the shape of the wheel has been redesigned to a slightly tapered profile that promises to not only reduce noise, but to reduce wear and tear on the rails. Initial testing shows the new wheel profile could cut noise by as much as 50 percent. All Fleet of the Future cars will feature the new wheel profile. It will take 12 to 36 months to update the wheel profiles on all of BART’s existing train cars.
Q4: Will the new train cars have as many seats as the old cars?
A: No, but the reduction is less than one seat per car. The new cars use thinner seat backs to help maximize seat count, and are outfitted with as many seats as can fit within the available space.
Available space for seating is limited by new buffer zones at the ends of each car required for crash safety, and a third door on each car to make it faster and easier to get off the train. To increase the number of seats in the fleet, BART has set a goal to obtain funding to increase the number of cars purchased from 669 currently to 1,081 train cars in the future. This would increase the number of seats in the fleet by about 60%.
- 905 car plan is based on a mix of old and new cars, and could only be sustained after old cars are retired if additional funding and contract authority are identified. Current contract is for 775 cars.
- Use of 1,081 cars requires companion investment in train control upgrade.
Q5: Will you have open space to accommodate wheelchairs, luggage, and bikes?
A: Yes, the new trains include designated spaces for wheelchairs and bikes. In addition, by popular demand, BART seats are mounted higher off the floor on the new train cars, making the seats more comfortable and increasing the amount of space under the seats to stow luggage. We are currently testing a multi-use space on four of the cars for luggage, strollers and bicycles.
Q6: Is it viable to have dedicated bike cars in set locations on BART trains?
A: No, BART cars reverse directions at the ends of the lines, and moreover are continuously coupled and uncoupled in between runs throughout the day. For these reasons, it is not possible to keep a “bike car” in a predictable position on a train. For example, a special car at the front of a train might be end up being at the back of the train later in the day. Or two 4-car trains might be joined to make an 8-car train with bike cars then in the middle as well as on the ends, greatly reducing seating for our riders. Instead of a dedicated bike car, the current design calls for one or more bike racks on each car to provide a predictable and convenient place to hold bikes during times when bikes are allowed on the trains.
Q7: Will the new car have more places for shorter people to hold on?
A: Yes, they have more poles, handholds, and hand straps to better meet the needs of those who cannot reach overhead stanchions, as well as elderly and disabled customers who have told us they want more handholds near the doors to avoid losing their balance as trains accelerate or decelerate.
Q8: Can we have digital screens that tell us what station is the next stop?
A: Yes, there are digital screens on the new trains (located next to side doors) to enhance passenger information. The screens display a dynamic system map, the next stop information, courtesy reminders and safety tips.
Q9: Will the new cars be faster?
A: No. The new cars have a maximum speed of 80 miles per hour. To go faster than that, changes would need to be made, not only to the rail car propulsion systems, but also to other BART infrastructure. Still, the new cars can help reduce travel times by having more doors, which will lessen the time needed for passengers to board and alight the train at stations.
Q10: Are the cars "made in America" creating U.S. jobs?
A: Yes, final assembly of the car is in the United States and the cars contain at least 2/3 American manufactured components, including the Train Control, propulsion system, the brakes, and all the electrical wiring.
Q11: Can BART require the new rail cars to be built locally, right here in the Bay Area?
A: No, federal contracting provisions prohibit BART from placing any requirements on where in the U.S. assembly must take place, or where parts must be manufactured. Nevertheless, jobs have been and will be created locally to support the design, commissioning, warranty and other activities associated with the project.
Q12: Are the new train cars WiFi equipped?
A: Yes, the new train cars are "WiFi ready." But for customers to enjoy quality WiFi service, coverage in BART stations and tunnels needs to expand. BART continues to work to extend WiFi coverage in the BART system.
Q13: Do new train cars have charging stations for phones and other devices?
A: No. BART recognizes that charging stations would be a valuable feature, but did not include them on the new cars because of the ongoing maintenance costs involved. Moreover, battery technology for mobile devices is expected to continue to improve dramatically in the coming years, reducing the need to charge devices during a typical BART trip (average travel time is approximately 20 minutes).
Q14: I heard the new trains use Seattle Seahawks colors? Is that true?
A: No, the primary Seahawks color is a dark navy, whereas the BART train cars use a traditional BART blue. The greens are also different. A 2014 survey of more than 7,000 customers showed that over 80% support the proposed color design for the new train cars.
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